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Monterey County Fire Training Officers AssociationMeeting Minutes – November 8, 2007Host: Marina Department of Public SafetyMeeting called to order at 1016 hours by President David Sargenti. I. Roll Call: Members Present: David Sargenti
Salinas Rural FPD Non-Members Present: Chris Orman North County FPD II. Approval of Minutes: Review of the meeting minutes of October 11, 2007 held at the administrative offices of the Salinas Rural Fire Protection District recorded by Dan Gearhart. Motion by Rick Williams, second by Brad Hinkley, to accept and approve the minutes as presented. Motion carried. III. Treasurer’s Report: The monthly Treasurer’s Report was presented by Dan Gearhart on behalf of Bookkeeper Kathryn Pernet. Checking Account Balance as of 09-30-07: $46, 757.54 Expenses: Red Shift Internet Services 19.95 Monterey County Office of Education (Annual Fire Library Fee) 1,240.00 International Association of Fire Fighters (Peer Fitness Class) 16,875.00 Supplies for Ventilation Class (Home Depot) 1,107.00 U.S. Food Service (Wildland Fire School Apples) 79.08 Stamps (Bookkeeper) 41.00 Refunds for canceled High Rise Operations class 390.00 Total Expenses: $19,752.89 Income: None Checking Account Balance as of 10-31-07: $27,004.65 Certificate of Deposit: $6,760.83 Total Assets: $33,765.48 Dan Gearhart reported that there are still outstanding invoices for fuel reimbursements for Wildland Fire School. Per Dave Sargenti, these invoices have been submitted to BEU Unit Chief George Haines. Motion made by Dave Cruz, second by Humberto Arista, to accept the Treasurer’s Report as presented. Motion carried. IV. Correspondence / Announcements: 1. Revised schedule for MCFTOA sponsored wildland training for 2008. Schedule will be included with the minutes. 2. Revised letter received from IAFF concerning Peer Fitness Class. Will discuss during committee reports. V. Committee Reports: A. ICS Committee: 1. Working on developing the process for the 50% reimbursement for the BEU – CAL FIRE and FMC Classes. Information provided by Stewart Roth on the 50% discount is as follows: “For classes being held by CAL FIRE, Reno will be handling the registrations. He will note who from Monterey County is attending and then let me know. I will then let the department know how much they owe and the training officers. This is the same process for the FMC training group. For those classes you send an e-mail to me with who is attending and I will let FMC know. Then I will make payment notifications known. Thanks, Stew.” For FMC classes “Monterey County personnel wishing to attend must contact their department Training Officer for registration. The department Training Officer contacts me by e-mail at roth@ci.monterey.ca.us with the registrations forms completed. I will forward the registration to FMC and advise the Training Officer how much their department must pay FMC. I will keep count and advise the TO’s how much they must pay. Stew.” B. Wildland Committee:1. Dave Sargenti reported that the 2008 dates for Wildland Fire School are June 5-8, 2008. Committee work on the 2008 WFS started with the first planning meeting at 0900 hours on this date. During the planning meeting the positives and negatives of the 2007 school were discussed and the development of the goals for the 2008 school were established. The school will remain incident based with a formalized Training Specialist and Taskbook sign-off opportunities. The development of the Organizational Chart has started with some positions already filled. The expectation is that all overhead personnel will attend all the planning meetings and will commit to all four days of the school. C. Fire Library: 1. Dave Sargenti reported that he is working with the Fire Library to get the list of resources on our website. The monthly EMS 24/7 programs are being added and the Utility Emergencies DVD has been added. D. Programs: 1. The OTS Training Grant class “Auto Extrication Train-the-Trainer” class is scheduled for November 30, 2007 – December 2, 2007 hosted by North County and taught by Ron Moore. Last day for registration was November 5, 2007. 2. Auto Extrication class planned for the spring of 2008. 3. PC832. Dave Sargenti has been in contact with South Bay Regional for holding a PC 832 class. Sargenti is looking for local instructors to teach the class. Grover Beach may have leads on an Instructor. 4. Incident Command for High Rise Operations – Class cancelled due to lack of registrations as voted on at the meeting of October 11, 2007. 5. Ventilation Techniques – Class held on October 20 & 21, 2007. It appears we have a net profit for the class of $1,135.14 with 26 students that attended. E. Website: No Report F. California State Fire Academy at Monterey Bay / MPC: No Report G. Wellness and Fitness Program: 1. Dave Sargenti reported that since the last meeting we have learned that amount of $16,875.00 that has been sent to the IAFF for the Peer Fitness Class is only for the minimum amount of 25 students. For each student over that amount, with a maximum of 32 students, the $675.00 per student registration fee would go to the IAFF and not to the Training Officers Association. With the registration fee at $675.00, the only profit potential for the TO’s would come from MPC application forms. Our obligation is to provide a suitable location and refreshments as needed unless refreshments are donated. In addition, per Dan Gearhart, there is no cancellation period prior to 30 days of the scheduled class with a full refund. IAFF will maintain the funding until the class can reach the 25 student minimum. In the discussions with Michele Vaughn since the last meeting, she has apologized for the misunderstanding between the Training Officers and IAFF and feels confident that we can easily reach the 25 student minimum. After a general discussion concerning this new information and the overall benefits of the class, a motion was made by Rick Williams, with a second by Dave Cruz to continue with the sponsorship of the class understanding that the per student registration fee of $675.00 is for all students, up to a maximum of 32 students, and goes to the IAFF. Motion carried. VI. Old Business: 1. Mutual Aid Training Plan: Due to the statewide fire activity during the week of October 24th, the countywide mutual aid high-rise drill was canceled. A new date is being planned with information to be forwarded in the near future. VII. New Business: 1. Credit Card Transactions for TO Website: Dan Gearhart reported that the two options available are to proceed with using an actual credit card transaction machine or using an Internet based system such as Pay Pal or Pay Pro. Gearhart recommended going with an on-line system as opposed to actual credit card transactions. Pay Pal has a Virtual Terminal Option that allows the business or organization to simply accept credit card numbers and then enter the numbers into their on-line Pay Pal Account. Pay Pal then pays the organization into the account of their choice. For this service, there is a monthly fee of $30.00 and a 1% - 3% individual transaction fee. Our current website may not be able to support an on-line system. Dan Gearhart will obtain more information on the options and will provide a recommendation on the type of plan at the next meeting. 2. Goals and Objectives for 2008: Dave Cruz would like to start developing the goals and objectives for 2008. Please forward any ideas to Dave Cruz for discussion at a future meeting. VIII. Good of the Order: 1. Rick Williams reported that he attended the 2007 John P. Redmond Symposium in Chicago from October 21-25 for Occupational Health and Hazards for the Fire Service. Rick stated that it was interesting to note that the fire service in California is far ahead of other states, and even large east coast cities, in terms of incident management, firefighter safety, and fireground operations. 2. Chief Orman announced that as the outgoing President of the Monterey County Fire Chiefs Association, it is his pleasure to host the annual Fire Chiefs Installation Dinner typically held in January of each year. Chief Orman wanted to pass along that all members of the fire service are invited to attend the Installation Dinner. Chief Orman wanted to encourage members of the fire service to star the grass roots efforts for nominating individuals for awards received during the function. 3. John Owens reported that a training website for BEU – CAL FIRE is being developed as www.BEUtraining.org. The site is currently under construction. 4. Dave Sargenti reported that the Salinas Rural Fire Protection District is hosting an open house for their new administrative offices on Thursday November 16th. Contact Dave Sargenti for more details. IX. Adjournment: 1. Meeting adjourned at 1108 hours. Next Meeting: December 13, 2007 – Monterey Peninsula Airport District Fire Department Wildland Committee – 0900 hrs. Membership Meeting – 1000 hrs. Monterey County Fire Training Officers AssociationWildland Committee Meeting MinutesMarina Department of Public Safety – November 8, 2007Meeting called to order at 0910 hours by Division Chief David Sargenti. Attendees: Dave Sargenti
Salinas Rural FPD Chief Sargenti said that his first priority for the 2008 Wildland Fire School is to get all needed overhead and support positions filled as soon as possible. Sargenti said that during this first planning meeting he would like to go over the positives and negatives from the 2007 school, establish some basic goals for the 2008 school, and begin the process of filling in the organizational chart. Sargenti said that the Training Support Request (TSR) has been submitted to Fort Hunter Liggett Ranger Control requesting the dates of June 4-8, 2008. Barring any unforeseen conflict, either military or weather related, these dates should be firm for 2008. Sargenti will be meeting with Fort Hunter Liggett Fire in the near future to established operational priorities for the 2008 school. Our goal is to have a full school with 60 student engines / pieces of apparatus participating. As provided by the attendees of the meeting, some positives of the school included: Ø Ideal burning conditions / weather Ø Branch level instruction Ø Flexibility of the students and command staff Ø Overall attendance – achieved nearly a full school Ø The school was financially in very good shape. Achieved 100% of college applications being turned in by students and delivered to MPC promptly. Ø Well organized at the command level Ø Emphasis with being run as an actual incident while at the same time still being a wildland training school Ø Good balance between instruction and practical application Ø Good post school follow-up with certificates processed and delivered in a timely fashion. Some negatives aspects of the school as pointed out by the meeting attendees: Ø Radio communications in Branch 6 Ø Shower unit closed on Sunday afternoon Ø Need more personnel in logistical section Ø Daily briefings needed to be shortened. Break outs should be when briefing is concluded. Ø Blacklining took several days in some Branches Ø Demobilization Plan failure Ø Needed better duplication process equipment Ø Questionable medical plan. Was still being developed during the school. Ø Needed clear skill level expectations for attending students Ø Daily rotation of crews did not allow for consistent training /skill level especially on final days of the school Ø Some apparatus driving skills were questionable for the nature of the school Ø Campsite clean-up by engine companies held in reserve Ø Not prepared for as many command level trainees that attended In relation to some of the negatives pointed out, priority for the 2008 school will be placed on providing additional showers in the campground, adjusting the blacklining operation in Branches 6 & 7, having an equipped medical unit near the burn sites, and developing an effective demobilization plan. Goals for the 2008 school include: ü Continue to run the school as an actual incident ü Develop a plan for addressing the issue of completing Taskbooks ü Fill as many overhead positions as possible especially in the support roles ü Formalize the role of the Training Specialist Chief Sargenti presented a preliminary Organizational Chart with the following positions filled: Incident
Commander: Dave Sargenti We still have key positions that need to be filled including Planning Section Chief, Demobilization Unit Leader, Finance Section Chief, and several Branches Directors. Chief Sargenti emphasized that for all overheard positions the expectation is that all planning meeting are attended and a commitment is made to attend the all four days of the school. Meeting Adjourned at 1000
hours. Minutes prepared by D. Gearhart 11-10-07
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